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and Houston disorient you we're starting

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at six o'clock we're going around

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clockwise to show you the markings

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leonarda's our perception that there was

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no movement of the hatch when we

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repressurized back to 14.7 thank you

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just in Columbia as you saw we walked

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around slowly throughout the entire

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hatch perimeter we can't detect any

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displacement rider leash and we

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certainly see no gross motion as

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measured against the markers and we put

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around the door yesterday in Ted 2 so we

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don't have any Delta's to show you any

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ok we are full close that is in the

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direction of closed and now I'm going as

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far open as the handle will go easily

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and now i'm going to push those extra

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couple of degrees or we really come to a

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okay we really appreciate that Tammy

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yeah close to us yeah that gave us a

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very good idea of what you had told us

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in words a couple of days ago so we

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really appreciated that and that

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concludes our our requirements for for

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downlink of of the hatch thank you very

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much I was excellent you're welcome okay

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used in the Columbia I did the first

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series here on the Cape and we'll start

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now with the b3 setting on the power

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tool it was very easy holding on to the

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handrail of the hatch minute like the

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tool through the b3 and b4 settings

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there was only a slight amount of torque

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applied with a size know it all the way

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down to the hard stuff we copy and you

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have to watch us run through the series

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but the basic finding at b5 was that the

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body position was disturbed quite a bit

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by the b5 hard stop force and b6 and b7

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well attempted really swung the body

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around to the point where the tool was

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hopping off the bolt or you could not

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hold your body position in Houston

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always still have a few minutes sku I

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can just say briefly that we all sound

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very similar results that the b3 setting

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corresponding 25 foot-pounds was

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certainly acceptable as was before but

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we get to be five settings 15 foot

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pounds that's a fair amount of force to

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react through your wrist b6 again we got

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low torque readings indicating that we

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let go of the trigger early and if we

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have enough time in this K you down like

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you'll see when i get to that setting my

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body will get spun around much like toms

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did

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one thing to think about when you're

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setting up your test is as Tom mentioned

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was that we will be on umbilicals

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handrail position is very important this

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handrail position is not ideal a

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handrail on the floor would have been a

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little bit more comfortable when

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reacting the higher torque and we're

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wondering if we have enough clearance in

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the mid deck in a suit without our legs

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contacting the walls and by seeing the

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data if you're truly looking for us to

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hold the tool and react all that torque

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through the wrist and not use our body

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in any way as previously briefed before

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is this story up my data came out of the

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same as Demi's it pumps basically up

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through while 15-foot bounce we're very

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well I'll be on that in this particular

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unsuited environment it's not reasonable

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i intuitively think that this is going

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to go a whole lot better when you're

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suited because instead of having 160

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pounds of body inertia you have about

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480 pounds help us stabilize the body

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when the tool reaches its final torque I

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also intuitively think that a gloved

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hand is going to hang under the pistol

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grip a lot better did the bare hand does

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it is also a lot more strength and

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stability at least ability India the

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wrists and arms of a suit so I didn't we

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think it is gonna go lot better than a

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space shuttle Columbia astronauts Tammy

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Jernigan and Tom Jones are with us the

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two of you thanks for letting us be with

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you in the middle of your day we can't

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start without talking about the fact you

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didn't get to go outside and conduct

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your spacewalks everybody on earth is

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talking about it what went through your

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mind Tammy when you tried to turn that

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hatch handle and it didn't work I was

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certainly surprised that the handle

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would not rotate as I had trained for it

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to rotate certainly was frustrated and

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so we tried to rotate a little harder

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and Ashley end up working for a couple

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hours trying to get the hatch open so we

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were certainly disappointed but also

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thinking that there was a lot of time

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left in the flight and we knew that the

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ground team and the crew would work hard

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together to perhaps think of a

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workaround yeah Tom you got into the act

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after that in that very cramped airlock

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with Tammy what did you think the

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problem was well this way I just thought

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we had a sticky hatch and the fact that

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Tammy's initial rotation wasn't able to

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free it up was just an indication that

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we'd have to put a little bit more elbow

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grease into it she certainly tried and

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then asked me to give it a shot that I

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wasn't able to budget either and we were

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both putting it putting out about the

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maximum force we ever tried to put in to

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a mechanical systems in our water tank

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training back in Houston and said that

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point I started to think that we had a

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jam of some sort that our strength

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wasn't going to be able to overcome and

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say during those two hours in the air

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lock while we juggled our bodies around

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and tried to find it more mechanical

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advantage I was also thinking about

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perhaps coming back the next day of

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trying this with their support strategy

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what were the two of you trained to do I

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guess let's start with Tom on this one

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in case you were able to get the airlock

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open but then you couldn't get it to

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seal completely when you were finished

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with you spacewalks well we had physics

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working for us in that case once we got

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back inside the airlock after dva the

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airlock glides up against it's filled

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with a very easy motion

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turning the crank handle merely engages

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some mechanical dogs that hold the hatch

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mechanically tight but if we could get

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it close enough where it would actually

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touch the seal as soon as we let air in

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from inside the orbiter cabin and that

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air pressure would slam that hatch shut

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up against the seals and it would stay

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closed no matter how strongly we pulled

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on it so we were pretty confident that

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we would be in a bad situation but

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there's always a potential and trying to

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get her without mechanically with some

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of the things we are on board that we

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might damage or what the hatch such a

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way that those fields could be damaged I

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think that's the conservative approach

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that the soul program has taken here

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they didn't want to damage the hardware

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for the objectives of their CDA which

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could be rescheduled the throne of a

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later flight yeah that's the question

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that a lot of people have now what are

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the two of you going to do about your

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training as a space station construction

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workers that's the best place to do that

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is out where the space station would be

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outside in the in the cargo bay or very

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near it what do you think it's going to

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mean to you and enter the overall

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program is a the failure of the hatch to

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open slowed down Space Station

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certainly think there was interest in

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conducting these two eda so a lot of

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time and effort put into building the

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hardware and orchestrating the test plan

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so that we get tests all this hardware

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in our concepts for station construction

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and so certainly it is a bit of a

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setback however there are setbacks in a

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program its ambitious is NASA space

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program and NASA will figure out a way

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to get the information they need to

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successfully construct the station

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decide where they fly in a later site or

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then they use some more extensive ground

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testing to get the information they feel

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don't need but they will certainly take

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the steps to ensure that we have enough

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knowledge to have a successful station

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construction and maintenance program

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sure well the two of you God let me just

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add that we select the last ten months

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training extensively for these two

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spacewalks and a lot of the work that we

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did underwater in Houston and onboard

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the LA live training aircraft down there

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as well they spent validating the

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approaches and the techniques that we

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would use here

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orbit and to a lot of magic said we have

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a lot of confidence those techniques

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because we worked so hard on them on the

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ground so I think the final icing on the

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cake and the final conservation hero

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that would have been really valuable to

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us that certain we've learned a great

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deal allows not a tent but just in the

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developmental and practice what we've

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got ahead trading for the spacewalks yes

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the two you're making the best of this

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course and we've been watching you test

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some of the space station tools you're

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going to be using when you build the

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station later on how do the tools work

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in the tests that you've conducted on

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them over the past couple of hours so

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the ISS tower to list has preferred

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performs well and as expected during the

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tests we did on the mid-deck and we were

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able at least to fulfill some of the

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objectives for the flight by doing the

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power tool check out and then swimming

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that data down to the ground all right

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demio I've talked to Tammy Jernigan and

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Tom Jones at several times over the past

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couple of years and you know maybe it's

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my question maybe my questions are

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bummer questions for you guys but the

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two of you despite the fact that you're

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always optimistic and almost bubbly

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seemed pretty much subdued as we talk

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right now am i right about this or is it

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my questions leading you down a very

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serious and somber path today no I think

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certainly that we are feeling some

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combination of disappointment at the

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failure of the hatch but yet pleasure in

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being part of this mission has been in

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every other way very successful and

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we're both technical people and so when

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you ask us the technical question you

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get a technical answer I'm glad to see

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some smiles from both of you Tom any

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final comments he's only got about a

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minute left well disappointment

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naturally comes into our feelings and I

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hope for better times on future missions

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where I've assigned to a spacewalk be an

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optimist about that too but you can't

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take away at a fabulous nature of this

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experience and personally last night

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even after ed A's were canceled I spent

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an entire night orbit of yours

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looking down at understorms and added to

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southern constellations and watching the

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lightning flicker out the surfaces of

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the orbiter and that's such an

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experience that is unreachable on the